HOF Grids
Deserving of HOF Induction as Player
Not including ...
Players connected to PEDs or Gambling.
Players not yet eligible or still with ballot years.
Sacrificed Career to do a Service for all Players
Batters
Bobby Grich (2B, JAWS 58.7, CPV 43.6)
Lou Whitaker (2B, JAWS 56.5, CPV 43.0)
Kenny Lofton (CF, JAWS 55.9, CPV 38.8)
Reggie Smith (RF, JAWS 51.6, CPV 37.7)
Willie Randolph (2B, JAWS 51.1, CPV 36.8)
Jim Edmonds (CF, JAWS 51.5, CPV 36.6)
Graig Nettles (3B, JAWS 55.1, CPV 35.9)
Dick Allen (3B, JAWS 52.3, CPV 35.9)
Sal Bando (3B, JAWS 53.0, CPV 35.5)
Buddy Bell (3B, JAWS 53.4, CPV 34.9)
Dwight Evans (RF, JAWS 52.3, CPV 34.6)
Keith Hernandez (1B, JAWS 50.8, CPV 34.4)
Bobby Bonds (RF, JAWS 49.4, CPV 33.8)
Ken Boyer (3B, JAWS 54.5, CPV 33.1)
Chet Lemon (CF, JAWS 46.5, CPV 32.4)
Jim Wynn (CF, JAWS 49.5, CPV 32.0)
Sherry Magee (LF, JAWS 49.0, CPV 31.8)
Gene Tenace (C, JAWS 40.9, CPV 28.6)
Joe Torre (C, JAWS 47.4, CPV 27.5, Inducted as Manager, not as Player)
Thurman Munson (C, JAWS 41.6, CPV 25.5)
Wally Schang (C, JAWS 37.9, CPV 24.4)
Pitchers
Curt Schilling (SP, JAWS 65.0, CPV 55.0)
Kevin Brown (SP, JAWS 57.1, CPV 41.6)
Rick Reuschel (SP, JAWS 55.6, CPV 38.0)
David Cone (SP, JAWS 52.6, CPV 38.0)
Bret Saberhagen (SP, JAWS 50.9, CPV 36.8)
Luis Tiant (SP, JAWS 55.0, CPV 36.1)
Johan Santana (SP, JAWS 47.8, CPV 34.5)
Roy Oswalt (SP, JAWS 44.9, CPV 34.3)
Dave Stieb (SP, JAWS 50.5, CPV 32.9)
Kevin Appier (SP, JAWS 49.0, CPV 32.7)
Postseason stats should be formally measured for Value (WAR, WAA).
Value (WAR, WAA) would need to be estimated.
Would result in slightly less accuracy than regular season stats.
Preferable to not measuring Postseason Value at all.
Would enhance understanding of player careers.
Would give a reasonable measure of Value, rather than ignoring, relying on partial data, or anecdotal information.
Assist with understanding the career significance of postseason performance.
Bill James once proposed a 3X weight for Postseason Value.
BBWAA HOF Voting
Induction threshold should be 50%.
Current Induction Threshold is 75% of all Ballots cast.
Almost all players that reach 50% are eventually inducted in some fashiond.
Reduce need for band-aid committees and methods of selecting HOF players.
Induction would happen much earlier for many players.
Eliminate Vote Limit Rule
Voters can only vote for a maximum of 10 players on each Ballot.
Backlogs force voters to decide who is more worthy, rather than the proper question: whether a specific player is worthy.
Votes used to keep a player on the Ballot.
Eliminate One-and-Done
Less than 5% of votes eliminates player from future Ballots.
Examples where the current system is NOT working
One-and-Done impacted Ballot eligibility
Bobby Grich (2B, JAWS 58.7, CPV 43.6)
Lou Whitaker (2B, JAWS 56.5, CPV 43.0)
Ron Santo (3B, JAWS 62.2, CPV 42.6, Placed back on 1985 Ballot)
Kevin Brown (SP, JAWS 57.1, CPV 41.6)
Kenny Lofton (CF, JAWS 55.9, CPV 38.8)
Rick Reuschel (SP, JAWS 55.6 CPV 38.0)
David Cone (SP, JAWS 52.6, CPV 38.0)
Reggie Smith (RF, JAWS 51.6, CPV 37.7)
Willie Randolph (2B, JAWS 51.1, CPV 36.8)
Bret Saberhagen (SP, JAWS 50.9, CPV 36.8)
Jim Edmonds (CF, JAWS 51.5, CPV 36.6)
Dick Allen (3B, JAWS 52.3, CPV 35.9, Placed back on 1985 Ballot)
Ted Simmons (C, JAWS 53.0, CPV 35.5)
Sal Bando (3B, JAWS 53.0, CPV 35.5)
Buddy Bell (3B, JAWS 53.4, CPV 34.9)
Johan Santana (SP, JAWS 47.8, CPV 34.5)
Dave Stieb (SP, JAWS 50.5, CPV 32.9)
Kevin Appier (SP, JAWS 49.0, CPV 32.7)
Jim Wynn (CF, JAWS 49.5, CPV 32.0)
Chuck Finley (SP, JAWS 49.0, CPV 30.1)
Not elected on their 1st or 2nd Ballot
Rogers Hornsby (2B, JAWS 100.5, 5th ballot)
Grover Alexander (SP, JAWS 94.7, 3rd ballot)
Eddie Collins (2B, JAWS 94.3, 4th ballot)
Lefty Grove (SP, JAWS 86.2, 4th ballot)
Mel Ott (RF, JAWS 82.4, 3rd ballot)
Jimmie Foxx (1B, JAWS 75.1, 7th ballot)
Phil Niekro (SP, JAWS 75.1, 5th ballot)
Eddie Mathews (3B, JAWS 74.9, 5th ballot)
Bert Blyleven (SP, JAWS 72.4, 14th ballot)
Gaylord Perry (SP, JAWS 71.2, 3rd ballot)
Eddie Plank (SP, JAWS 71.0, Old Timers Committee after 6 ballots)
Robin Roberts (SP, JAWS 70.6, 4th ballot)
Charlie Gehringer (2B, JAWS 68.8, 6th ballot Runoff)
Fergie Jenkins (SP, JAWS 67.8, 3rd ballot)
Joe DiMaggio (CF, JAWS 65.6, 4th ballot)
Arky Vaughan (SS, JAWS 65.5, Veterans Committee)
Ed Walsh (SP, JAWS 64.8, Old Timers Committee after 6 ballots)
Jeff Bagwell (1B, JAWS 64.2, 7th ballot)
Curt Schilling (SP, JAWS 64.1, Not inducted after 10 ballots)
Mike Mussina (SP, JAWS 63.6, 6th ballot)
Ron Santo (3B, JAWS 62.2, Classic Baseball Era Committee)
Luke Appling (SS, JAWS 61.1, 7th ballot Runoff)
Sabermetricians should be more involved in the HOF selection process.
More objectivity.
On the cutting edge of properly measuring player Value.
Will always be ahead of BBWAA membership regarding historical analysis.
Special Committees
Negro Leagues Committee
Short league seasons.
Barnstorming games not counted.
Many games not fully documented.
Should be measured by experts.
Pre-Modern Era Major Leagues (Prior to 1901)
Fewer teams.
Game played very differently.
Should be measured by experts.
Sabermetrician Committee
Can Induct the most egregiously denied Players from any Era or any League.
Could meet yearly after the BBWAA Vote to assist with induction decisions.
Designated Hitters
Should be measured against 1Bs.
1B is Position with most similar defensive responsibility.
Player
Seasons
WAR
WAR / Season
WAR Peak 7
WAA
WAA / Season
WAA Peak 7
Seasons WAR 5+ / WAA < 0
JAWS
OPS+
CPV
Derek Jeter 20
71.3
3.6
42.4
29.9
1.5
26.1
6 / 6
56.9
115
35.8
Chase Utley 16
64.5
4.0
49.3
40.9
2.6
36.6
6 / 5
56.9
117
43.6
Seasons of 7 WAR: Jeter 2, Utley 5
Seasons of 130 OPS+: Jeter 2, Utley 4
Player
Seasons
WAR
WAR / Season
WAR Peak 7
WAA
WAA / Season
WAA Peak 7
Seasons WAR 5+ / WAA < 0
JAWS
OPS+
CPV
Dave Winfield 22
64.2
2.9
37.9
24.0
1.1
23.4
5 / 7
51.1
130
29.8
Bobby Bonds 14
57.8
4.1
41.1
31.8
2.3
25.7
7 / 2
49.5
129
33.8
Seasons of 7 WAR: Winfield 1, Bonds 1
Seasons of 130 OPS+: Winfield 10, Bonds 7
Player
Seasons
WAR
WAR / Season
WAR Peak 7
WAA
WAA / Season
WAA Peak 7
Seasons WAR 5+ / WAA < 0
JAWS
OPS+
CPV
Eddie Murray 21
68.7
3.3
39.2
27.4
1.3
24.3
5 / 7
54.0
129
34.3
Dick Allen 15
58.7
3.9
45.9
32.9
2.2
30.1
6 / 4
52.3
157
35.9
Seasons of 7 WAR: Murray 1, Allen 3
Seasons of 130 OPS+: Murray 11, Allen 10
Player
Seasons
WAR
WAR / Season
WAR Peak 7
WAA
WAA / Season
WAA Peak 7
Seasons WAR 5+ / WAA < 0
JAWS
OPS+
CPV
Billy Williams 18
63.6
3.5
41.3
27.0
1.5
24.1
5 / 5
52.5
133
29.7
Sherry Magee 16
59.4
3.7
38.7
31.4
2.0
24.2
4 / 2
49.1
137
31.8
Seasons of 7 WAR: Williams 1, Magee 0
Seasons of 130 OPS+: Williams 9, Magee 9
Player
Seasons
WAR
WAR / Season
WAR Peak 7
WAA
WAA / Season
WAA Peak 7
Seasons WAR 5+ / WAA < 0
JAWS
OPS+
CPV
Earle Combs 12
45.1
3.8
36.2
21.5
1.8
19.2
4 / 1
40.7
125
22.0
Lenny Dykstra 12
42.4
3.5
33.0
26.2
2.2
22.2
2 / 0
37.7
120
26.2
Seasons of 7 WAR: Combs 1, Dykstra 1
Seasons of 130 OPS+: Combs 3, Dykstra 2
Pete Rose
John Dowd, MLB investigator, said of Pete Rose, "He placed his financial interest ahead of the Reds, period."
Per ESPN regarding Pete Rose, "The documents obtained by Outside the Lines, which reflect betting records from March through July 1986, show no evidence that Rose, who was a player-manager in 1986, bet against his team."
Obviously, MLB's rules allow no gambling [MLB Rule 21 (d) (2)]. Still, John Dowd's statement does not appear accurate.
It appears that Rose placed his financial interest inline with the Reds.
When considering team owners and their actions, are their financial interests always inline with their team's interests?
I'm sure those smarter than me could list examples where an owner's financial interests were put ahead of their team's.
Has there never been an owner that prioritized profits over a competitive team?
Has there never been an owner that pocketed Revenue Sharing without reinvesting that money back into the team?
David Ortiz
David Ortiz IN ... on his 1st Ballot ... as a DH!
So many others connected to PEDs OUT!
The "leaked" 2003 MLB steroid list includes David Ortiz and 102 others.
This list also includes Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Rafael Palmeiro, Manny Ramirez and Alex Rodriguez.
This is the Eager to Condemn List of NON-Hall of Famers.
But, this list also includes Roberto Alomar, Adrian Beltre, Todd Helton, Pedro Martinez and Ivan Rodriguez.
This is the Eager to Forgive List of Hall of Famers.
Was it just unlucky that you were caught up in a court case or hearing, federally investigated and forced to make statements under oath?
Does anyone really think PED use was limited to just a couple dozen players, and that only these should be punished? Or do you think the 103 players on the "leaked" list represent a conservative number?
Or, is it all just about Dislike?
Curt Schilling
I DON'T believe Gambling after your career would keep you from the Hall Of Fame.
I DON'T believe PEDs after your career would keep you from the Hall Of Fame.
I DO believe Dislike after your career would keep you from the Hall Of Fame.
Two of these things are not like the other.
Apparently, HOF voters need to like someone to elect them (and that goes for you, Ron Santo, and you too, Dick Allen).
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Postseason Stats
Include estimations for WAR and WAA.
Include Postseason WAA in CPV.
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Chart to Plot OPS+ vs CPV
Chart to Plot ERA+ vs CPV